Just Some More "Social Liberals" Attacking People

[Y.A.G Si Ye Nots]

The fact that you called masked thugs dressed in all black, who have a documented history of violence THIS WEEK “peaceful protesters” says all that needs to be said.
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This is yet another example of just how poor your reading comprehension and overall intelligence are.

Go back and look at where I said "peaceful protesters." It was in reference to those who were chanting from across the street. That is a peaceful protest. The vast majority of those people aren't masked or dressed in all black.

Why do you have so much trouble with reading comprehension? It has plagued this board for years, and you're just the most recent who has shown a high level of failure with it.

Again, go back and read who was being referred to as "peaceful protesters." Then, like always, run away from your claim.

I’m not avoiding anything.

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You're still avoiding it, coward. You argued that since none of the "normal guys" were arrested, they clearly weren't the ones in the wrong. I showed you a link where the NYPD is trying to arrest 9-12 of them. You said it was a bad source. I showed you more links stating the same. You have hid from that like you have done repeatedly over the last two weeks, including in the other thread.

Now, are you going to admit that your argument about the "normal guys" not being in the wrong since they allegedly weren't arrested, knowing that 9-12 of will be charged now?

You have to invent a reason why you don’t know how to properly use an apostrophe.

The "s" issue has been around for a week now. Your attempt wasn't the first one about it.

Anyone, including you, who has been on here for more than a month knows that I not only know where an apostrophe should go (and that is a very basic use of it), but that I also know far more about grammar than anyone else on this board.

I didn't mislead. Most states, including NY, don't enforce that law.

But using your example Antifa should be subject to violation, being that they do acts of violence and intimidation.

Read slower: Many states don't even have that law. Many states that do have enforced it only in certain instances (when used for intimidation or violence).

 

[Y.A.G Si Ye Nots]

Well bc, I’m glad you asked. Megalomania also known as Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is a personality disorder with a long-term pattern of abnormal behavior characterized by exaggerated feelings of self-importance, excessive need for admiration, and a lack of empathy.[2][3] Those affected often spend a lot of time thinking about achieving power or success, or on their appearance.[3] They often take advantage of the people around them.[3]The behavior typically begins by early adulthood, and occurs across a variety of social situations.[3]

Does that sound like anyone you know?

Anyone who knows either of us knows that sounds far, far more like you than it does about me.

Hell, you have mocked me for having empathy for others, while at the same time, you have been attacked on here for your lack of empathy for people. Self-importance? You're the guy who boasts about all of your friends being so educated, successful, and foreign-born as if it somehow means you aren't a hillbilly. Appearance? I go a year without getting my hair cut. You refuse to have a single hair out of place.

 

[big_country90]

Well bc, I’m glad you asked. Megalomania also known as Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is a personality disorder with a long-term pattern of abnormal behavior characterized by exaggerated feelings of self-importance, excessive need for admiration, and a lack of empathy.[2][3] Those affected often spend a lot of time thinking about achieving power or success, or on their appearance.[3] They often take advantage of the people around them.[3]The behavior typically begins by early adulthood, and occurs across a variety of social situations.[3]

Does that sound like anyone you know?

Sure does… should we spoil it or let everyone guess?

 

[HerdFan76]

This is yet another example of just how poor your reading comprehension and overall intelligence are.

Go back and look at where I said "peaceful protesters." It was in reference to those who were chanting from across the street. That is a peaceful protest. The vast majority of those people aren't masked or dressed in all black.

Why do you have so much trouble with reading comprehension? It has plagued this board for years, and you're just the most recent who has shown a high level of failure with it.

Again, go back and read who was being referred to as "peaceful protesters." Then, like always, run away from your claim.




You're still avoiding it, coward. You argued that since none of the "normal guys" were arrested, they clearly weren't the ones in the wrong. I showed you a link where the NYPD is trying to arrest 9-12 of them. You said it was a bad source. I showed you more links stating the same. You have hid from that like you have done repeatedly over the last two weeks, including in the other thread.

Now, are you going to admit that your argument about the "normal guys" not being in the wrong since they allegedly weren't arrested, knowing that 9-12 of will be charged now?



The "s" issue has been around for a week now. Your attempt wasn't the first one about it.

Anyone, including you, who has been on here for more than a month knows that I not only know where an apostrophe should go (and that is a very basic use of it), but that I also know far more about grammar than anyone else on this board.



Read slower: Many states don't even have that law. Many states that do have enforced it only in certain instances (when used for intimidation or violence).

Antifa uses intimidation and violence to suppress (ironically), speakers they deem fascist. So by your own wording they're guilty.

 

[murox]

Anyone who knows either of us knows that sounds far, far more like you than it does about me.

Hell, you have mocked me for having empathy for others, while at the same time, you have been attacked on here for your lack of empathy for people. Self-importance? You're the guy who boasts about all of your friends being so educated, successful, and foreign-born as if it somehow means you aren't a hillbilly. Appearance? I go a year without getting my hair cut. You refuse to have a single hair out of place.

Everyone who posts here knows both of us. You should poll the board and ask.

You go out of your way to prove you're something you're not. You're a running joke to everyone who posts here because of your bizarre, outlandish claims. But let's take all of your accusations one-by-one:

1. The only people who have ever attacked me for my lack of empathy are greed and greed 2. Both people suffer from mental illness, so . . .

2. I have never mocked you for your empathy for others. I have mocked you for your irrational belief that spending other peoples' money makes you virtuous. You regularly boast about all the charitable things you do. Who does that other than a megalomaniacal psycho?

3. I don't boast about my friends. I was responding to you referring to all WV as uneducated hillbillies. I was simply pointing out that everyone I associate is wealthier, more educated, more accomplished and more diverse than you. I've never claimed to have foreign-born friends -- that's another fabrication on your part. I've said I have many ethnic friends who love Trump in response to your retarded claims that everyone who supports Trump is a white hillbilly.

4. You posted 30 pictures of different jeans you own as if anyone cared.

 

[ThunderCat98]

it tend to result in violence

"Tends." Damn sticky key.

 

[murox]

"Tends." Damn sticky key.

Someone buy the rich position coach/music producer a new keyboard. He's out here giving away free nights at all his properties for the less fortunate and just can't manage to get a keyboard that works.

 

[ThunderCat98]

You're a running joke to everyone who posts here because of your bizarre, outlandish claims.

 

[Y.A.G Si Ye Nots]

Antifa uses intimidation and violence to suppress (ironically), speakers they deem fascist. So by your own wording they're guilty.

Correct, they do. However, your broad statement that they violate laws by wearing masks is misleading. Not all states have that law. Numerous states have ruled the law unconstitutional. Other states that do have that law still on the books have it to only apply to certain situations. So your broad statement is extremely misleading.

 

[extragreen]

The only people who have ever attacked me for my lack of empathy are greed....

Nope. I attack you because you have no benevolence.

 

[HerdFan76]

Correct, they do. However, your broad statement that they violate laws by wearing masks is misleading. Not all states have that law. Numerous states have ruled the law unconstitutional. Other states that do have that law still on the books have it to only apply to certain situations. So your broad statement is extremely misleading.

We're good. This happened in NY, were it's legal to cover your face. Although, I believe they should show their face if they feel so strongly about their cause...And not be violent.

A New York State law prohibiting “being masked or in any manner disguised” in public has withstood legal challenges since 1845 and has been used recently. The police in New York City cited the mask law while arresting people associated with the Occupy Wall Street movement in 2011 and 2012.

Like the laws in other states, the New York statute includes exceptions for masquerade parties and other entertainment events. But unlike other states, New York did not pursue the legislation in response to the Ku Klux Klan. The law was intended to prevent the killing of landlords by tenant farmers in the Hudson Valley who dressed up as American Indians and wore disguises of calico gowns and leather masks.

 

[Y.A.G Si Ye Nots]

You go out of your way to prove you're something you're not.

And what are those things? You have recently claimed that numerous things I have said are lies.

1) You claim that I have to work and that I just have to have a boss. I have challenged you to ask @Chris McLaughlin to verify the IP address where almost every single one of my posts come from. The only difference will be the few on my other name (since I don't know the password to either) that only my phone is logged into and when I have traveled to NY/Florida/Louisiana/LA over the last few months. Clearly, if every single one of my posts - regardless if 8 am, 2 pm, 7 pm, or 11 pm - are from the same IP, it would mean I either don't work (thus don't have a boss) or I work from home doing who knows what. You refuse to do this, just like you refuse the other easy things, because it would prove you wrong. I also invited you and @big_country90 to Facetime me as much as you want throughout the day so you can see exactly where I am and what I am wearing to show you my "work" and my "boss" that you insist that I just have to have. Once again, you refuse to do that. It's far easier for you to get exposed for being a moron, then change the subject to be about me, then claim that I am lying instead of once again being shown to be wrong.

2) You claimed that I am lying about the Nissan being my mother's car even though it had plates on it from a state I hadn't lived in for 15+ years.

3) You claimed that I "don't have a single credit" in the entire music industry.

4) You claim that I coach at a D3 and/or high school program,

Which one of those do you want to fully prove? Note, you'll have to take thirty seconds of your time to verify, but we all know you won't because it once again exposes you for being wrong and a moron.

your bizarre, outlandish claims.

They aren't outlandish when they are true. Again, name which one(s) do you want to verify, and it will be quite easy. Of course, you won't actually take the time to do it, because you'll continue to be exposed.

1. The only people who have ever attacked me for my lack of empathy are greed and greed 2. Both people suffer from mental illness, so . . .

You live in fantasy world. One of the most respected posters on this board, @GK4Herd , has called you out numerous times for the lack of empathy you have for less fortunate and/or disenfranchised people. Are you so delusional that you can't remember any of the numerous times that he has done it? He is far from the only one besides E.T. and me who have done that. This board is overwhelmingly conservative, and very few of you call out a fellow conservative for anything even when you disagree. The fact that you have been called out for that same thing by numerous people, and that you deny it, shows plenty.

Look at how dumb you sound: you're the one who claims that all welfare programs should be immediately stopped because there are enough charities to take care of people.

I have mocked you for your irrational belief that spending other peoples' money makes you virtuous.

That doesn't even make sense.

I was responding to you referring to all WV as uneducated hillbillies.

Bullshit. Stop with the straw men, liar. I have said that the majority of West Virginians are hillbillies. I stand by that statement. You're included in that. No matter how hard you try to be what you're not, you just can't hide it. And you're very self-conscious about it. That's why when people from other parts of the country/world ask where you're from, you always have that little voice in the back of your head that is embarrassed when you have to say "West Virginia." That's why you have tried so hard to rid yourself of the Appalachian accent you can't shake. Accept your hillbilly roots. You already have to a certain extent with your deplorable nature.

You regularly boast about all the charitable things you do.

This is what you just don't understand. I don't mention these things out of the blue. I mention them after morons like you make a claim that I am bullshitting about them. When you do that, I mention the last thing I did.

Likewise, when you think I "run and immediately tell" when I meet a celebrity, it's extremely false. If I am with artists every week and only mention one out of every fifty, does that fit your narrative? If I have a picture with one out of every ten, does that fit your narrative? No, it doesn't, and your simple mind just can't understand that.

I was simply pointing out that everyone I associate is wealthier, more educated, more accomplished and more diverse than you.

Do yourself a favor: read this over and over to yourself.

Do you see how much of a moron you sound like? Do you see how desperately elitist you try to make yourself sound? I cringe for you while reading your repeated claims of that.

Hell, these are my best guy friends- they include a Marshall drop-out who is almost forty, hasn't had a full-time job that he has been able to keep for more than a year, who grew up with a single-father who is a bookie, whose older brother is in jail for life, who has abused steroids, who had a daughter when he was thirteen, and who grew up in an apartment in Omaha that leaked on his head at night when it would rain hard. Another close friend is a high school teammate who was making seven-figures as a day trader by his mid 20s. Another close friend (high school) is in jail for life in Kentucky for killing a female police officer while high. Another best friend from high school has a high executive position at Under Armour after playing in the NFL. Yet another close friend is a country kid who went to a trade school after high school and is an independent contractor (remodeling stuff, not full home builds). Another best friend coaches in the ACC, never played the sport, and grew up wealthy in Nashville. Another was a band kid in high school and college, has been a business partner for more than a decade, is also multi-Grammy nominated, is extremely humble, and refuses to move away from his hometown.

My best friends are extremely diverse in all aspects - where they grew up, their success or lack thereof, their education, their race . . . hell, I am pretty sure two of those guys (the contractor and the guy in jail) are cheeto supporters even though they don't mention it.

Yet you, in your overly self-conscious discomfort, only associate with highly successful, highly wealthy, highly educated, and highly diverse people. God, you sound like such a fvcking dork.

I've said I have many ethnic friends who love Trump in response to your retarded claims that everyone who supports Trump is a white hillbilly.

Straw man. Why do you constantly resort to straw men?

4. You posted 30 pictures of different jeans you own as if anyone cared.

And I'll continue to post pictures proving you wrong on those things you claim I am lying about. This isn't something new- I enjoy proving people wrong when they call others out for lying/being wrong. Hell, I did it to you earlier this evening when you claimed that E.T. was wrong in your argument with you even though you were clearly the one at fault. I did the same thing to E.T. when he returned within the last couple of weeks.

So, please, pick any of those things you claim I am lying about, and I'll prove you wrong once again.

"Tends." Damn sticky key.

Yes, another example, as I said it would happen again. I caught the previous twenty times it happened and corrected them. Don't worry - before typing this message, I grabbed something on my nightstand, folded it in half, and used the corner to lift each side of the key. It's fixed now.

Someone buy the rich position coach/music producer a new keyboard. He's out here giving away free nights at all his properties for the less fortunate and just can't manage to get a keyboard that works.

Only one property. It was empty at the time and some of the younger coaches don't have a big budget to pay $250/night for a beach hotel during high season.

And the keyboard works fine now. It was just a key that was stuck down in one corner. I hadn't taken the 60 seconds to fix it earlier. The MAC is used for music only. The other laptop is too cumbersome to carry from room to room. The iPad isn't easy to type fast on, so I prefer the Chromebook.

Don't be a coward this time. I gave you four things that I could recall that you claim I am lying about. Spend ten seconds to challenge me on any of them.

 

[wvkeeper(HN)]

I, for one, don't see the problem with being a hillbilly.

 

[big_country90]

I, for one, don't see the problem with being a hillbilly.

That's just rifle's deplorable elitism speaking.

 

[ThunderCat98]

And what are those things? You have recently claimed that numerous things I have said are lies.

1) You claim that I have to work and that I just have to have a boss. I have challenged you to ask @Chris McLaughlin to verify the IP address where almost every single one of my posts come from. The only difference will be the few on my other name (since I don't know the password to either) that only my phone is logged into and when I have traveled to NY/Florida/Louisiana/LA over the last few months. Clearly, if every single one of my posts - regardless if 8 am, 2 pm, 7 pm, or 11 pm - are from the same IP, it would mean I either don't work (thus don't have a boss) or I work from home doing who knows what. You refuse to do this, just like you refuse the other easy things, because it would prove you wrong. I also invited you and @big_country90 to Facetime me as much as you want throughout the day so you can see exactly where I am and what I am wearing to show you my "work" and my "boss" that you insist that I just have to have. Once again, you refuse to do that. It's far easier for you to get exposed for being a moron, then change the subject to be about me, then claim that I am lying instead of once again being shown to be wrong.

2) You claimed that I am lying about the Nissan being my mother's car even though it had plates on it from a state I hadn't lived in for 15+ years.

3) You claimed that I "don't have a single credit" in the entire music industry.

4) You claim that I coach at a D3 and/or high school program,

Which one of those do you want to fully prove? Note, you'll have to take thirty seconds of your time to verify, but we all know you won't because it once again exposes you for being wrong and a moron.



They aren't outlandish when they are true. Again, name which one(s) do you want to verify, and it will be quite easy. Of course, you won't actually take the time to do it, because you'll continue to be exposed.



You live in fantasy world. One of the most respected posters on this board, @GK4Herd , has called you out numerous times for the lack of empathy you have for less fortunate and/or disenfranchised people. Are you so delusional that you can't remember any of the numerous times that he has done it? He is far from the only one besides E.T. and me who have done that. This board is overwhelmingly conservative, and very few of you call out a fellow conservative for anything even when you disagree. The fact that you have been called out for that same thing by numerous people, and that you deny it, shows plenty.

Look at how dumb you sound: you're the one who claims that all welfare programs should be immediately stopped because there are enough charities to take care of people.



That doesn't even make sense.



Bullshit. Stop with the straw men, liar. I have said that the majority of West Virginians are hillbillies. I stand by that statement. You're included in that. No matter how hard you try to be what you're not, you just can't hide it. And you're very self-conscious about it. That's why when people from other parts of the country/world ask where you're from, you always have that little voice in the back of your head that is embarrassed when you have to say "West Virginia." That's why you have tried so hard to rid yourself of the Appalachian accent you can't shake. Accept your hillbilly roots. You already have to a certain extent with your deplorable nature.



This is what you just don't understand. I don't mention these things out of the blue. I mention them after morons like you make a claim that I am bullshitting about them. When you do that, I mention the last thing I did.

Likewise, when you think I "run and immediately tell" when I meet a celebrity, it's extremely false. If I am with artists every week and only mention one out of every fifty, does that fit your narrative? If I have a picture with one out of every ten, does that fit your narrative? No, it doesn't, and your simple mind just can't understand that.



Do yourself a favor: read this over and over to yourself.

Do you see how much of a moron you sound like? Do you see how desperately elitist you try to make yourself sound? I cringe for you while reading your repeated claims of that.

Hell, these are my best guy friends- they include a Marshall drop-out who is almost forty, hasn't had a full-time job that he has been able to keep for more than a year, who grew up with a single-father who is a bookie, whose older brother is in jail for life, who has abused steroids, who had a daughter when he was thirteen, and who grew up in an apartment in Omaha that leaked on his head at night when it would rain hard. Another close friend is a high school teammate who was making seven-figures as a day trader by his mid 20s. Another close friend (high school) is in jail for life in Kentucky for killing a female police officer while high. Another best friend from high school has a high executive position at Under Armour after playing in the NFL. Yet another close friend is a country kid who went to a trade school after high school and is an independent contractor (remodeling stuff, not full home builds). Another best friend coaches in the ACC, never played the sport, and grew up wealthy in Nashville. Another was a band kid in high school and college, has been a business partner for more than a decade, is also multi-Grammy nominated, is extremely humble, and refuses to move away from his hometown.

My best friends are extremely diverse in all aspects - where they grew up, their success or lack thereof, their education, their race . . . hell, I am pretty sure two of those guys (the contractor and the guy in jail) are cheeto supporters even though they don't mention it.

Yet you, in your overly self-conscious discomfort, only associate with highly successful, highly wealthy, highly educated, and highly diverse people. God, you sound like such a fvcking dork.



Straw man. Why do you constantly resort to straw men?



And I'll continue to post pictures proving you wrong on those things you claim I am lying about. This isn't something new- I enjoy proving people wrong when they call others out for lying/being wrong. Hell, I did it to you earlier this evening when you claimed that E.T. was wrong in your argument with you even though you were clearly the one at fault. I did the same thing to E.T. when he returned within the last couple of weeks.

So, please, pick any of those things you claim I am lying about, and I'll prove you wrong once again.



Yes, another example, as I said it would happen again. I caught the previous twenty times it happened and corrected them. Don't worry - before typing this message, I grabbed something on my nightstand, folded it in half, and used the corner to lift each side of the key. It's fixed now.



Only one property. It was empty at the time and some of the younger coaches don't have a big budget to pay $250/night for a beach hotel during high season.

And the keyboard works fine now. It was just a key that was stuck down in one corner. I hadn't taken the 60 seconds to fix it earlier. The MAC is used for music only. The other laptop is too cumbersome to carry from room to room. The iPad isn't easy to type fast on, so I prefer the Chromebook.

Don't be a coward this time. I gave you four things that I could recall that you claim I am lying about. Spend ten seconds to challenge me on any of them.

 

[Marine03]

They should classify all these groups as domestic terrorists and just let a military unit off them all

 

[murox]

That's just rifle's deplorable elitism speaking.

Wanna be elitism. He’s not even elite. That’s why he tries so hard on here to convince everyone.

 

[murox]

And what are those things? You have recently claimed that numerous things I have said are lies.

1) You claim that I have to work and that I just have to have a boss. I have challenged you to ask @Chris McLaughlin to verify the IP address where almost every single one of my posts come from. The only difference will be the few on my other name (since I don't know the password to either) that only my phone is logged into and when I have traveled to NY/Florida/Louisiana/LA over the last few months. Clearly, if every single one of my posts - regardless if 8 am, 2 pm, 7 pm, or 11 pm - are from the same IP, it would mean I either don't work (thus don't have a boss) or I work from home doing who knows what. You refuse to do this, just like you refuse the other easy things, because it would prove you wrong. I also invited you and @big_country90 to Facetime me as much as you want throughout the day so you can see exactly where I am and what I am wearing to show you my "work" and my "boss" that you insist that I just have to have. Once again, you refuse to do that. It's far easier for you to get exposed for being a moron, then change the subject to be about me, then claim that I am lying instead of once again being shown to be wrong.

2) You claimed that I am lying about the Nissan being my mother's car even though it had plates on it from a state I hadn't lived in for 15+ years.

3) You claimed that I "don't have a single credit" in the entire music industry.

4) You claim that I coach at a D3 and/or high school program,

Which one of those do you want to fully prove? Note, you'll have to take thirty seconds of your time to verify, but we all know you won't because it once again exposes you for being wrong and a moron.



They aren't outlandish when they are true. Again, name which one(s) do you want to verify, and it will be quite easy. Of course, you won't actually take the time to do it, because you'll continue to be exposed.



You live in fantasy world. One of the most respected posters on this board, @GK4Herd , has called you out numerous times for the lack of empathy you have for less fortunate and/or disenfranchised people. Are you so delusional that you can't remember any of the numerous times that he has done it? He is far from the only one besides E.T. and me who have done that. This board is overwhelmingly conservative, and very few of you call out a fellow conservative for anything even when you disagree. The fact that you have been called out for that same thing by numerous people, and that you deny it, shows plenty.

Look at how dumb you sound: you're the one who claims that all welfare programs should be immediately stopped because there are enough charities to take care of people.



That doesn't even make sense.



Bullshit. Stop with the straw men, liar. I have said that the majority of West Virginians are hillbillies. I stand by that statement. You're included in that. No matter how hard you try to be what you're not, you just can't hide it. And you're very self-conscious about it. That's why when people from other parts of the country/world ask where you're from, you always have that little voice in the back of your head that is embarrassed when you have to say "West Virginia." That's why you have tried so hard to rid yourself of the Appalachian accent you can't shake. Accept your hillbilly roots. You already have to a certain extent with your deplorable nature.



This is what you just don't understand. I don't mention these things out of the blue. I mention them after morons like you make a claim that I am bullshitting about them. When you do that, I mention the last thing I did.

Likewise, when you think I "run and immediately tell" when I meet a celebrity, it's extremely false. If I am with artists every week and only mention one out of every fifty, does that fit your narrative? If I have a picture with one out of every ten, does that fit your narrative? No, it doesn't, and your simple mind just can't understand that.



Do yourself a favor: read this over and over to yourself.

Do you see how much of a moron you sound like? Do you see how desperately elitist you try to make yourself sound? I cringe for you while reading your repeated claims of that.

Hell, these are my best guy friends- they include a Marshall drop-out who is almost forty, hasn't had a full-time job that he has been able to keep for more than a year, who grew up with a single-father who is a bookie, whose older brother is in jail for life, who has abused steroids, who had a daughter when he was thirteen, and who grew up in an apartment in Omaha that leaked on his head at night when it would rain hard. Another close friend is a high school teammate who was making seven-figures as a day trader by his mid 20s. Another close friend (high school) is in jail for life in Kentucky for killing a female police officer while high. Another best friend from high school has a high executive position at Under Armour after playing in the NFL. Yet another close friend is a country kid who went to a trade school after high school and is an independent contractor (remodeling stuff, not full home builds). Another best friend coaches in the ACC, never played the sport, and grew up wealthy in Nashville. Another was a band kid in high school and college, has been a business partner for more than a decade, is also multi-Grammy nominated, is extremely humble, and refuses to move away from his hometown.

My best friends are extremely diverse in all aspects - where they grew up, their success or lack thereof, their education, their race . . . hell, I am pretty sure two of those guys (the contractor and the guy in jail) are cheeto supporters even though they don't mention it.

Yet you, in your overly self-conscious discomfort, only associate with highly successful, highly wealthy, highly educated, and highly diverse people. God, you sound like such a fvcking dork.



Straw man. Why do you constantly resort to straw men?



And I'll continue to post pictures proving you wrong on those things you claim I am lying about. This isn't something new- I enjoy proving people wrong when they call others out for lying/being wrong. Hell, I did it to you earlier this evening when you claimed that E.T. was wrong in your argument with you even though you were clearly the one at fault. I did the same thing to E.T. when he returned within the last couple of weeks.

So, please, pick any of those things you claim I am lying about, and I'll prove you wrong once again.



Yes, another example, as I said it would happen again. I caught the previous twenty times it happened and corrected them. Don't worry - before typing this message, I grabbed something on my nightstand, folded it in half, and used the corner to lift each side of the key. It's fixed now.



Only one property. It was empty at the time and some of the younger coaches don't have a big budget to pay $250/night for a beach hotel during high season.

And the keyboard works fine now. It was just a key that was stuck down in one corner. I hadn't taken the 60 seconds to fix it earlier. The MAC is used for music only. The other laptop is too cumbersome to carry from room to room. The iPad isn't easy to type fast on, so I prefer the Chromebook.

Don't be a coward this time. I gave you four things that I could recall that you claim I am lying about. Spend ten seconds to challenge me on any of them.

Holy christ. TL;DR

 

[GreenDuke]

The over compensation in this thread is spectacular.

 

[Dreh_Nagi_HC_IM]

And what are those things? You have recently claimed that numerous things I have said are lies.

1) You claim that I have to work and that I just have to have a boss. I have challenged you to ask @Chris McLaughlin to verify the IP address where almost every single one of my posts come from. The only difference will be the few on my other name (since I don't know the password to either) that only my phone is logged into and when I have traveled to NY/Florida/Louisiana/LA over the last few months. Clearly, if every single one of my posts - regardless if 8 am, 2 pm, 7 pm, or 11 pm - are from the same IP, it would mean I either don't work (thus don't have a boss) or I work from home doing who knows what. You refuse to do this, just like you refuse the other easy things, because it would prove you wrong. I also invited you and @big_country90 to Facetime me as much as you want throughout the day so you can see exactly where I am and what I am wearing to show you my "work" and my "boss" that you insist that I just have to have. Once again, you refuse to do that. It's far easier for you to get exposed for being a moron, then change the subject to be about me, then claim that I am lying instead of once again being shown to be wrong.

2) You claimed that I am lying about the Nissan being my mother's car even though it had plates on it from a state I hadn't lived in for 15+ years.

3) You claimed that I "don't have a single credit" in the entire music industry.

4) You claim that I coach at a D3 and/or high school program,

Which one of those do you want to fully prove? Note, you'll have to take thirty seconds of your time to verify, but we all know you won't because it once again exposes you for being wrong and a moron.



They aren't outlandish when they are true. Again, name which one(s) do you want to verify, and it will be quite easy. Of course, you won't actually take the time to do it, because you'll continue to be exposed.



You live in fantasy world. One of the most respected posters on this board, @GK4Herd , has called you out numerous times for the lack of empathy you have for less fortunate and/or disenfranchised people. Are you so delusional that you can't remember any of the numerous times that he has done it? He is far from the only one besides E.T. and me who have done that. This board is overwhelmingly conservative, and very few of you call out a fellow conservative for anything even when you disagree. The fact that you have been called out for that same thing by numerous people, and that you deny it, shows plenty.

Look at how dumb you sound: you're the one who claims that all welfare programs should be immediately stopped because there are enough charities to take care of people.



That doesn't even make sense.



Bullshit. Stop with the straw men, liar. I have said that the majority of West Virginians are hillbillies. I stand by that statement. You're included in that. No matter how hard you try to be what you're not, you just can't hide it. And you're very self-conscious about it. That's why when people from other parts of the country/world ask where you're from, you always have that little voice in the back of your head that is embarrassed when you have to say "West Virginia." That's why you have tried so hard to rid yourself of the Appalachian accent you can't shake. Accept your hillbilly roots. You already have to a certain extent with your deplorable nature.



This is what you just don't understand. I don't mention these things out of the blue. I mention them after morons like you make a claim that I am bullshitting about them. When you do that, I mention the last thing I did.

Likewise, when you think I "run and immediately tell" when I meet a celebrity, it's extremely false. If I am with artists every week and only mention one out of every fifty, does that fit your narrative? If I have a picture with one out of every ten, does that fit your narrative? No, it doesn't, and your simple mind just can't understand that.



Do yourself a favor: read this over and over to yourself.

Do you see how much of a moron you sound like? Do you see how desperately elitist you try to make yourself sound? I cringe for you while reading your repeated claims of that.

Hell, these are my best guy friends- they include a Marshall drop-out who is almost forty, hasn't had a full-time job that he has been able to keep for more than a year, who grew up with a single-father who is a bookie, whose older brother is in jail for life, who has abused steroids, who had a daughter when he was thirteen, and who grew up in an apartment in Omaha that leaked on his head at night when it would rain hard. Another close friend is a high school teammate who was making seven-figures as a day trader by his mid 20s. Another close friend (high school) is in jail for life in Kentucky for killing a female police officer while high. Another best friend from high school has a high executive position at Under Armour after playing in the NFL. Yet another close friend is a country kid who went to a trade school after high school and is an independent contractor (remodeling stuff, not full home builds). Another best friend coaches in the ACC, never played the sport, and grew up wealthy in Nashville. Another was a band kid in high school and college, has been a business partner for more than a decade, is also multi-Grammy nominated, is extremely humble, and refuses to move away from his hometown.

My best friends are extremely diverse in all aspects - where they grew up, their success or lack thereof, their education, their race . . . hell, I am pretty sure two of those guys (the contractor and the guy in jail) are cheeto supporters even though they don't mention it.

Yet you, in your overly self-conscious discomfort, only associate with highly successful, highly wealthy, highly educated, and highly diverse people. God, you sound like such a fvcking dork.



Straw man. Why do you constantly resort to straw men?



And I'll continue to post pictures proving you wrong on those things you claim I am lying about. This isn't something new- I enjoy proving people wrong when they call others out for lying/being wrong. Hell, I did it to you earlier this evening when you claimed that E.T. was wrong in your argument with you even though you were clearly the one at fault. I did the same thing to E.T. when he returned within the last couple of weeks.

So, please, pick any of those things you claim I am lying about, and I'll prove you wrong once again.



Yes, another example, as I said it would happen again. I caught the previous twenty times it happened and corrected them. Don't worry - before typing this message, I grabbed something on my nightstand, folded it in half, and used the corner to lift each side of the key. It's fixed now.



Only one property. It was empty at the time and some of the younger coaches don't have a big budget to pay $250/night for a beach hotel during high season.

And the keyboard works fine now. It was just a key that was stuck down in one corner. I hadn't taken the 60 seconds to fix it earlier. The MAC is used for music only. The other laptop is too cumbersome to carry from room to room. The iPad isn't easy to type fast on, so I prefer the Chromebook.

Don't be a coward this time. I gave you four things that I could recall that you claim I am lying about. Spend ten seconds to challenge me on any of them.

Damn.

All of that at 1:00 o'clock in the morning? Didn't read, as I figure I've probably read the exact same thing countless times before.

 

[Y.A.G Si Ye Nots]

Typical Tier Three. Even the meme you selected uses incorrect grammar.

Wanna be elitism. He’s not even elite. That’s why he tries so hard on here to convince everyone.

Says the guy who tries so hard to hide his lifelong, West Virginia life and who claim that he only associates with highly successful, highly diverse, and highly educated people.

Did you read your comment to yourself a few times?

Holy christ. TL;DR

You mock Country for using "LMAO," an acronym highly used and accepted among people of all ages. Yet you, a 40-something year old, uses "TL;DR" and thinks it isn't just as dorky.

15 year olds who wear t-shirts that say "That's what she said" and "U mad, bro?" are the ones who most use TL;DR. Take a hint.

Oh, and keep running like you usually do after your bullshit, coward.

 

[murox]

Typical Tier Three. Even the meme you selected uses incorrect grammar.




Says the guy who tries so hard to hide his lifelong, West Virginia life and who claim that he only associates with highly successful, highly diverse, and highly educated people.

Did you read your comment to yourself a few times?



You mock Country for using "LMAO," an acronym highly used and accepted among people of all ages. Yet you, a 40-something year old, uses "TL;DR" and thinks it isn't just as dorky.

15 year olds who wear t-shirts that say "That's what she said" and "U mad, bro?" are the ones who most use TL;DR. Take a hint.

Oh, and keep running like you usually do after your bullshit, coward.

Keep misrepresenting what I say, "coach." Not once did I claim that I only associate with "highly successful, highly diverse and highly educated people." I probably need to explain to you how friendships work since you're a sociopath who builds himself up online to strangers in a poor attempt at feeling superior. People tend to befriend those who share their interests and have a common social network.

 

[Y.A.G Si Ye Nots]

Not once did I claim that I only associate with "highly successful, highly diverse and highly educated people."
.

Oh, really? Here's a reminder for the newest, habitual board liar:

I was simply pointing out that everyone I associate is wealthier, more educated, more accomplished and more diverse than you.

By most reasonable accounts, somebody who is higher educated than somebody who has two master's degrees would be "highly educated." By most reasonable accounts, somebody who is wealthier than somebody who owns two beach properties, owns two luxury cars, and can maintain that lifestyle while not having to work another day would be pretty wealthy. By most reasonable accounts, somebody who is "more accomplished" than a guy who has coached D1 football for six years, was one of five partners in a company that had annual revenue over $40 million, founded his own company which had revenue over $800,000 in its first year before going multi-million the following year, has been nominated for two Grammys, and has credits on dozens of major label records would have to be pretty damn accomplished. By most reasonable accounts, somebody who is more diverse than a guy who has spent 18 years in the northeast, nearly 10 years in Washington, D.C. , 4 years in West Virginia, a year in South Beach, two more years in Florida, two summers in San Francisco, a year in west Texas, two years in two other metro Texas areas, and who has half his family being a different race would have to be pretty damn diverse.

And as you said, "everyone" you associate with are all of those things more than the guy I just described above. So yes, my comment that you only associate with highly successful, highly educated, and highly diverse people is exactly what you said.

since you're a sociopath who builds himself up online to strangers

Wait a minute - the people on here are strangers? That's odd. Just yesterday, this is what you had to say about "everyone" on here:

Everyone who posts here knows both of us.

So is it that everyone who posts here are strangers or everyone who posts here knows both of us, because outside of celebrities, those things really are tough to be exclusive.

You just aren't smart enough to not continue tripping over your own feet regardless of the topic.

 

[murox]

Oh, really? Here's a reminder for the newest, habitual board liar:



By most reasonable accounts, somebody who is higher educated than somebody who has two master's degrees would be "highly educated." By most reasonable accounts, somebody who is wealthier than somebody who owns two beach properties, owns two luxury cars, and can maintain that lifestyle while not having to work another day would be pretty wealthy. By most reasonable accounts, somebody who is "more accomplished" than a guy who has coached D1 football for six years, was one of five partners in a company that had annual revenue over $40 million, founded his own company which had revenue over $800,000 in its first year before going multi-million the following year, has been nominated for two Grammys, and has credits on dozens of major label records would have to be pretty damn accomplished. By most reasonable accounts, somebody who is more diverse than a guy who has spent 18 years in the northeast, nearly 10 years in Washington, D.C. , 4 years in West Virginia, a year in South Beach, two more years in Florida, two summers in San Francisco, a year in west Texas, two years in two other metro Texas areas, and who has half his family being a different race would have to be pretty damn diverse.

And as you said, "everyone" you associate with are all of those things more than the guy I just described above. So yes, my comment that you only associate with highly successful, highly educated, and highly diverse people is exactly what you said.



Wait a minute - the people on here are strangers? That's odd. Just yesterday, this is what you had to say about "everyone" on here:



So is it that everyone who posts here are strangers or everyone who posts here knows both of us, because outside of celebrities, those things really are tough to be exclusive.

You just aren't smart enough to not continue tripping over your own feet regardless of the topic.

Are you being serious? None of the shit you just posted is verifiably true. None of it. This is why people laugh at you. If it is, prove it. So you have a multimillion dollar company and you were going to buy a stripped-down E Class to pull women? You're mentally ill.

 

[murox]

Are you being serious? None of the shit you just posted is verifiably true. None of it. This is why people laugh at you. If it is, prove it. So you have a multimillion dollar company and you were going to buy a stripped-down E Class to pull women? You're mentally ill.

Oh shit, I glanced over the part about being nominated for two Grammys. This is your chance. You can prove us all wrong. Provide a link to your Grammy nomination and I'll apologize and never doubt your ridiculous claims again.

Remember that time the guy who owns a multimillion dollar business, is Grammy-nominated, and has credits to major record labels used his mom's Nissan Altima to drive 200 miles to dinner? What planet are you on?

 

[Herdfaninnoke]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/freebeacon.com/politics/two-gop-candidates-assaulted-minnesota/amp/

I believe it’s time to start throwing down with any left wing violent group or protesters. I say way to go Proud Boys beat the living Sh!t out of these a-holes.

 

[Y.A.G Si Ye Nots]

Are you being serious? None of the shit you just posted is verifiably true. None of it. This is why people laugh at you.

What isn't verifiable? I can't go post pictures of bills of sales from both cars or go to my garage and take pictures of the two luxury vehicles? Oh, let me guess - they are doctored documents and/or rentals from Avis, right?

I can't (and haven't) post pictures of me in the beach condos? Again, easily verifiable. Oh, let me guess - they are actually Airbnb rentals that I just had for one night. Hell, we have a mutual friend who has visited me in one of them.

I can't verify, through many people on here who have seen pics, websites, etc. that I have coached at the D1 level for six years?

I can't verify that I have credits on dozens of major label records by posting royalty statements from top companies?

I can't verify that my company had revenue over $800,000 in its very first full year by showing contracts with major companies for hundreds of thousands of dollars each?

I can't verify that I have lived in all of those places?

You claim that nothing I posted is verifiably true, though just about all of it is pretty easy to verify by either mutual friends of simple pictures (which of course, your fellow morons have claimed are doctored).

Oh shit, I glanced over the part about being nominated for two Grammys. This is your chance. You can prove us all wrong. Provide a link to your Grammy nomination and I'll apologize and never doubt your ridiculous claims again.

Your ignorance is comical. There aren't links to producers who receive a Grammy nomination. You receive a certificate and letter of congratulations for being nominated. You receive a trophy for winning. I have two of the former which I could ask for pictures to be taken of and texted down to me. Of course, I would block out my last name, etc.. Either way, you morons would say they are doctored. I could also screenshot my acceptance and membership as a Grammy voter, but of course, you'd make the same doctored claim.

I could take a picture of my royalty statement (which the statement even discusses is for "writers/producers/composers"), as it was the document I used to fix my "s" key last night. But once again, you'll just claim it was doctored.

Remember that time the guy who owns a multimillion dollar business, is Grammy-nominated, and has credits to major record labels used his mom's Nissan Altima to drive 200 miles to dinner? What planet are you on?

Christ. Your business intelligence leaves a lot to be desired. A multimillion dollar business doesn't mean it is worth millions. It usually refers to the revenue it produces. For instance, pretend I am a talent agent. In that position, all of the deals I arrange for my client(s) are paid through me to my agency. A standard agent takes 10%-20%. If that agency brings in $3 million in revenue, it is a multimillion dollar business, but its profits are far from multimillion. Up to 90% of that revenue goes to the clients. Of that $300,000, much of it goes to payroll taxes, salaries, etc.

So mocking somebody for having a multimillion business as if it is some "bizarre, outlandish" claim without understanding basic context simply makes you look dumber than usual. It doesn't mean that the owner is making millions himself each year.

And yes, but "multi-Grammy nominated." You're ripping me off from one of them.

And yes, dozens of credits to major label records.

And no, it was a Maxima and not an Altima.

And no, it wasn't anywhere near 200 miles. Orlando is about 40 minutes away. You weren't in Orlando though. Only after I was on my drive down was I told that you were significantly south of Orlando.

 

[Y.A.G Si Ye Nots]

you were going to buy a stripped-down E Class to pull women?.

Another failure of your reading comprehension. Go read the convo - my comment was that the Maserati would pull the pussy, not the Mercedes. You just aren't a very bright guy.

 

[ThunderCat98]

What isn't verifiable? I can't go post pictures of bills of sales from both cars or go to my garage and take pictures of the two luxury vehicles? Oh, let me guess - they are doctored documents and/or rentals from Avis, right?

I can't (and haven't) post pictures of me in the beach condos? Again, easily verifiable. Oh, let me guess - they are actually Airbnb rentals that I just had for one night. Hell, we have a mutual friend who has visited me in one of them.

I can't verify, through many people on here who have seen pics, websites, etc. that I have coached at the D1 level for six years?

I can't verify that I have credits on dozens of major label records by posting royalty statements from top companies?

I can't verify that my company had revenue over $800,000 in its very first full year by showing contracts with major companies for hundreds of thousands of dollars each?

I can't verify that I have lived in all of those places?

You claim that nothing I posted is verifiably true, though just about all of it is pretty easy to verify by either mutual friends of simple pictures (which of course, your fellow morons have claimed are doctored).



Your ignorance is comical. There aren't links to producers who receive a Grammy nomination. You receive a certificate and letter of congratulations for being nominated. You receive a trophy for winning. I have two of the former which I could ask for pictures to be taken of and texted down to me. Of course, I would block out my last name, etc.. Either way, you morons would say they are doctored. I could also screenshot my acceptance and membership as a Grammy voter, but of course, you'd make the same doctored claim.

I could take a picture of my royalty statement (which the statement even discusses is for "writers/producers/composers"), as it was the document I used to fix my "s" key last night. But once again, you'll just claim it was doctored.




Christ. Your business intelligence leaves a lot to be desired. A multimillion dollar business doesn't mean it is worth millions. It usually refers to the revenue it produces. For instance, pretend I am a talent agent. In that position, all of the deals I arrange for my client(s) are paid through me to my agency. A standard agent takes 10%-20%. If that agency brings in $3 million in revenue, it is a multimillion dollar business, but its profits are far from multimillion. Up to 90% of that revenue goes to the clients. Of that $300,000, much of it goes to payroll taxes, salaries, etc.

So mocking somebody for having a multimillion business as if it is some "bizarre, outlandish" claim without understanding basic context simply makes you look dumber than usual. It doesn't mean that the owner is making millions himself each year.

And yes, but "multi-Grammy nominated." You're ripping me off from one of them.

And yes, dozens of credits to major label records.

And no, it was a Maxima and not an Altima.

And no, it wasn't anywhere near 200 miles. Orlando is about 40 minutes away. You weren't in Orlando though. Only after I was on my drive down was I told that you were significantly south of Orlando.

 

[Y.A.G Si Ye Nots]

Tier Three, can't stay focused for more than two paragraphs.

 

[ThunderCat98]

Tier Three, can't stay focused for more than two paragraphs.

And you can't stand not responding to my stupid memes, D3. Or should we call you Greed 2? Both fit.

 

[murox]

What isn't verifiable? I can't go post pictures of bills of sales from both cars or go to my garage and take pictures of the two luxury vehicles? Oh, let me guess - they are doctored documents and/or rentals from Avis, right?

I can't (and haven't) post pictures of me in the beach condos? Again, easily verifiable. Oh, let me guess - they are actually Airbnb rentals that I just had for one night. Hell, we have a mutual friend who has visited me in one of them.

I can't verify, through many people on here who have seen pics, websites, etc. that I have coached at the D1 level for six years?

I can't verify that I have credits on dozens of major label records by posting royalty statements from top companies?

I can't verify that my company had revenue over $800,000 in its very first full year by showing contracts with major companies for hundreds of thousands of dollars each?

I can't verify that I have lived in all of those places?

You claim that nothing I posted is verifiably true, though just about all of it is pretty easy to verify by either mutual friends of simple pictures (which of course, your fellow morons have claimed are doctored).



Your ignorance is comical. There aren't links to producers who receive a Grammy nomination. You receive a certificate and letter of congratulations for being nominated. You receive a trophy for winning. I have two of the former which I could ask for pictures to be taken of and texted down to me. Of course, I would block out my last name, etc.. Either way, you morons would say they are doctored. I could also screenshot my acceptance and membership as a Grammy voter, but of course, you'd make the same doctored claim.

I could take a picture of my royalty statement (which the statement even discusses is for "writers/producers/composers"), as it was the document I used to fix my "s" key last night. But once again, you'll just claim it was doctored.




Christ. Your business intelligence leaves a lot to be desired. A multimillion dollar business doesn't mean it is worth millions. It usually refers to the revenue it produces. For instance, pretend I am a talent agent. In that position, all of the deals I arrange for my client(s) are paid through me to my agency. A standard agent takes 10%-20%. If that agency brings in $3 million in revenue, it is a multimillion dollar business, but its profits are far from multimillion. Up to 90% of that revenue goes to the clients. Of that $300,000, much of it goes to payroll taxes, salaries, etc.

So mocking somebody for having a multimillion business as if it is some "bizarre, outlandish" claim without understanding basic context simply makes you look dumber than usual. It doesn't mean that the owner is making millions himself each year.

And yes, but "multi-Grammy nominated." You're ripping me off from one of them.

And yes, dozens of credits to major label records.

And no, it was a Maxima and not an Altima.

And no, it wasn't anywhere near 200 miles. Orlando is about 40 minutes away. You weren't in Orlando though. Only after I was on my drive down was I told that you were significantly south of Orlando.

More nonsense. Post a picture of your grammy nomination on facebook then. Everyone knows if you actually had a grammy nomination and a certificate of that nomination with your name on it you would plaster it all over social media. And rightfully so, if you were nominated for a Grammy, that's a hell of an achievement. Unfortunately we both know yours is make-believe.

Again, prove to us any of your grandiose claims are real and I'll apologize and move on.

 

[mlblack16.]

More nonsense. Post a picture of your grammy nomination on facebook then. Everyone knows if you actually had a grammy nomination and a certificate of that nomination with your name on it you would plaster it all over social media. And rightfully so, if you were nominated for a Grammy, that's a hell of an achievement. Unfortunately we both know yours is make-believe.

Again, prove to us any of your grandiose claims are real and I'll apologize and move on.

I'm still waiting on a picture of him with a celebrity that wasn't taken using a Motorola Razr.

I mean, someone who hangs with Taylor on the reg should easily be able to share at least one candid shot of the two of them together.

 

[wvkeeper(HN)]

 

[murox]

I'm still waiting on a picture of him with a celebrity that wasn't taken using a Motorola Razr.

I mean, someone who hangs with Taylor on the reg should easily be able to share at least one candid shot of the two of them together.

At this point I'll accept a candid shot of him with anyone who has a blue checkmark on twitter. Not a "hey, will you take a picture with me?" photo.

 

[raleighherdfan]

(this message isn't for Rox)

 

[Y.A.G Si Ye Nots]

More nonsense. Post a picture of your grammy nomination on facebook then. Everyone knows if you actually had a grammy nomination and a certificate of that nomination with your name on it you would plaster it all over social media.
.

That's exactly what I wouldn't do. Where do I have my real name anywhere on Facebook? I purposely don't put anything with my name on there. Hell, even if the certificate didn't have my name - which it does - I still wouldn't put it on there.

How many of my RIAA certified gold/platinum plaques do I have on Facebook? I have one that I put on there many years ago simply because it was from a band totally out of my usual genre. Other than that, I haven't posted any of them. How many times have I posted about a placement on an album? The ONLY artist I have done that with is MattyB with about half of my placements, just like I do with only him on my Instagram, because he doesn't have a million dollar marketing budget that labels provide the other artists I have records with.

In fact, the co-producer on both Grammy nominations only posted about the first one on Facebook (and this was about 8 years ago).

How many times have I posted a picture of any car on Facebook? Once or twice maybe? The Land Rover about 13 years ago. Maybe the Jaguar from 12 years ago? How many times have I posted pictures of either beach condo? Once or twice- once with the view from one of my bedrooms in the background and the other having nothing to do with them. How many times do I post pictures from a vacation? Maybe 25% of the time?

You claim I am the boaster, yet in reality, it is you. I boast on here in response to the morons on here, like you, who try challenging me. On the other hand, you post pictures of your house, your yard after winning a Huntington, West Virginia contest, your cars (yes, just so you can "sell" them even though Facebook marketplace is far, far more beneficial for selling a car than posting for your Facebook friends), your apartment(s) (again, far better places to advertise than your Facebook friends), etc. I have a condo that was rented out all last year. The woman and her children just renewed their lease. I never posted about it on Facebook for a humble brag. Same with any cars I have sold or traded in. I know somebody who can't say the same.

This is the same argument you continue to make and fail on. You claim that I run to social media to post any of these things immediately. How many times do I put something on Facebook or Instagram? Once a month? Do you realize how many videos and pictures I have with artists backstage, from the side of stage, etc. that I've never posted? Do you realize how many of these times I don't even have pictures from?

But for the certificates . . . I'll be in NY in about a month. I'll be sure to post certificates when I get there. They are slightly different from each other since they are a couple of years apart.

And rightfully so, if you were nominated for a Grammy, that's a hell of an achievement.

Thanks, but it's not that huge of a deal in the industry. Prior to this year, this is how a nomination worked: say Flo Rida's "The Roots" album contained twelve songs. Pretend each song averaged three producers who received credit and two writers who received credit, so five total creatives on each song. A handful of producers and writers will overlap and have credits on other songs. So in total, assume there are 25 different creatives who have a hand in at least one of the twelve songs on the album. Then, there are mixers/engineers who also work on it, perhaps an A&R or two, and some studio musicians who are hired for some extra sounds on certain tracks. In total, there may be 30 people on that album who have some sort of credit. Now, if "The Roots" gets nominated for a Grammy for Rap Album of the Year, as it did, every single person who is credited on that album is officially Grammy nominated. Even if you only added one word as a songwriter on the entire album . . . on the worst song on the entire album . . . or simply changed a minor drum sound on the intro of one song . . . you're going to be Grammy nominated assuming the album is nominated.

So having two Grammy nominations, though impressive and something many highly successful creatives strive for, it isn't earth-shattering. There are quite a few Grammy nominated somethings that don't end up making a living from music and just get lucky or happen to be in the right place at the right time when a record is made.

Now, this year is the first year that changed. In order to be nominated as a producer, songwriter, or engineer for an Album of the Year award in any genre, you have to have credit on a certain percentage of the entire album (51% or more). If the entire album runs 60 minutes long, that means more than 30 minutes must include something you are credited on. Assuming a 60 minute album means 15 songs all at 4 minutes in length, to be nominated now, the creative must be part of at least 8 records.

If you look at last year's Rap Album of the Year (Kendrick Lamar), I don't believe there is a single producer or writer (outside of K. Dot) who would have won a Grammy under the new rules since none were on more than half of the songs. It is a monumental change that the Academy has implemented.

I think it is extremely restrictive, and they didn't do a good considering how most hip hop and pop albums are put together. Most hip hop and pop albums don't use a small number of producers/writers, with Taylor Swift and Bruno Mars being two recent exceptions.

So yes, I have two Grammy nominations (and if you look enough, you can find proof online with a name that you should be able to recognize), I will show the certificates in a month, but I would not have been anywhere close to receiving those nominations under the new rules.

In the meantime, the below picture entirely blows away your claim that I don't have major label placements, "a single credit in the entire music industry," and any of the other absurd things you've challenged me on.

Teach yourself what BMI does: it is a performance rights organization. BMI, along with ASCAP and SESAC, are the three biggest PROs in the world. They only pay writers/producers/publishers. Why do those people get paid? When records they are credited on get played around the world (sporting events, clubs, retail stores, hotel lobbies, doctor's office waiting room, etc.), there is a payment required from those. Those organizations take popular records and determine how much each earns from around the world each quarter. Obviously, some small record that doesn't get any air time on the radio isn't going to yield income. Note: BMI does not compensate for music played on Spotify, YouTube, itunes, record sales, etc. Those are entirely different types of royalties. BMI only pays for the things I mentioned. In other words, if a creative (publisher/writer/producer) is earning money from any of these three organizations each quarter, their credits are on some pretty big records. Then, on top of that, each of those organizations doesn't issue payment until a balance is a certain level. So if you make $100 as royalties in a quarter, they aren't bothering to send payment (I don't know the exact limit, but this was a teaching point).

Page 1 shows my quarterly statement for Q3 2018. Page 2 of the document shows who receives royalties. Oh, and like the other stack of checks I keep on my nightstand to remind myself to deposit them, this one hasn't been endorsed, deposited, or even torn off of the statement more than a month later.

It's probably because I am too busy with my "job" and my "boss" won't give me any time off to go to the bank.

Again, prove to us any of your grandiose claims are real and I'll apologize and move on.

The fact that I receive quarterly royalties from BMI proves that your "You don't have a single credit in the entire music industry" is bogus, but it also shows that they aren't just any run-of-the-mill credits. They are for major records/artists/labels that yield significant enough revenue that they send me a check every quarter (along with the numerous labels and publishers that do).

You've also previously said there are no social media posts from any legitimate artist/producer/etc. naming me for anything. And that's also false As I mentioned, I don't have Twitter where most of those things are done, but I not only have heard about them/been shown them, but I also have seen them myself on places like Facebook . . . including from people on Facebook who have a "blue check" on their Twitter page. And yes, I'll prove that, but only if you agree to a deal.

 

[Y.A.G Si Ye Nots]

I mean, someone who hangs with Taylor on the reg should easily be able to share at least one candid shot of the two of them together.

First, I never claimed to hang with her "on the reg." I have spent time with her, I believe, four times times over three days. Yes, I have pictures with her . . . at least three that I can think of. I am sure there are more that are true candids, especially while playing golf, but I don't have access or have ever asked where they are. Likewise, the two videos I showed are candid, and I didn't have access to either of those- they were sent to me over the years by others who were there.

What do you define as candid? To me, candid refers to a picture taken when the person doesn't know it is being taken and/or isn't acknowledging the camera.

I have 2500 pictures on my phone. I have another 20,000 on my iPad. I can't think of a single one that is a candid of me (outside of somebody taking pictures of me playing sports/coaching). Any pictures I have of myself are ones where I am acknowledging the camera by looking at it. Candid pics of people are usually taken by somebody else's camera and not the subject's camera, thus they usually don't have candid pics of their own person. I have plenty of candids of other people, but that's because I am the one taking the pictures of them.

Really, how many candid photos do you have of yourself? I don't think that's normal. Most people don't have a collection of candids of themselves, because they simply aren't taking pictures like that with their own camera.

But I have hundreds of pictures with artists where I am acknowledging the camera. You're welcome to request any.

At this point I'll accept a candid shot of him with anyone who has a blue checkmark on twitter. Not a "hey, will you take a picture with me?" photo.

This is just more stupidity by you. You have access to hundreds of my pictures with artists. Do you think random people have access to their tour buses, dressing rooms, residences, studios, etc.?

Do you think Tony Bennett, a fvcking 95 year old guy, has a team that allows random people backstage, let alone in his dressing room (his son is his manager)? Do you think they allow their 95 year old moneymaker to be traveling all night, do a show for two hours on his feet singing and dancing, then allow access for people to get anywhere near him, let alone sit down with him, talk, and get pictures?

Do you think Lauryn Hill, one of the most private and difficult artists in modern pop music allows somebody to be with them for a few days in Hawaii and meet with them each day?

Do you think Ice Cube, a monumental rap legend, is going to invite some random out to a music fest to smoke with him and talk business? Hell, I can screenshot his son messaging me on Instagram saying that he is a big fan of my work.

Do you think Andrea Bocelli, a pop/opera legend, has a team that will usher me into his dressing room during intermission? By the way, the only other people granted that were Matthew McConaughey and his mother.

Do you think Jay Rock, a former Crip who is signed to a very street label like Top Dawg/Interscope, has security that lets some random on his bus?

Do you think Ronald and Ernie Isley, Rock & Rock Hall of Fame members, invite you to Ron's sister-in-law's birthday party so they can try setting you up with her?

Do you think some of the biggest stars in the world including Jay Z, Taylor Swift, Rihanna, Beyonce, John Legend, Mariah Carey, Stevie Wonder, Ed Sheeran, Shakira, Kelly Clarkson, etc. are accessible to go up and talk to, let alone ask for a picture? If you somehow are able to get backstage - which is always very secure and restricted for huge acts - do you think you can get within thirty feet of those artists let alone be close enough to ask them for a picture?

Do you think rappers like Nas, Mobb Deep, Wu Tang, Scarface, Bun B, 2 Chainz, Slick Rick, Young Jeezy, Juvenile, Mystikal, Rakim, Outkast, etc. would stop to take a picture with anyone?

Do you think absolutely huge mega-stars around the world who don't speak much English like J Balvin, Maluma, and Wisin would have a translator with them to meet with just anyone? The majority of Americans don't even know those guys, yet they sell out ARENA tours in the U.S. Those guys walking down the street in any Spanish speaking country would be like Taylor Swift, Beyonce, and Justin Bieber playing hopscotch on 4th Ave.

Do you think the newer breed of stars like J. Cole, Post Malone, G Eazy, Camila Cabello, Alessia Cara, Demi Lovato, Logic have teams that allow people to get close to them? Do you realize how much money these artists bring in each year? Do you realize how much that amounts to for their teams? Do you think they would allow some random on their buses, in their dressing rooms, etc. where they could be assaulted, have a new relationship start to get them to a new team, etc.? Those guys are protected as much as top diplomats and employ former federal agents/police to be by their sides.

Based on your denials of everything I have claimed, just how do you think it would be possible for me to spend time with all of these people, get close enough for them to even hear me yell, let alone get pictures with them on their buses, in their homes, in studios, and in their dressing rooms? Your claim that people can just walk up and ask for a picture to these people shows how clueless you are.

I'm still waiting on a picture of him with a celebrity that wasn't taken using a Motorola Razr.

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Damn. Would you look at this. I didn't even know I had this picture. Clearly, I wasn't the one who asked for it considering I have both of my cell phones in my hand.

There goes your theory that my claim about being in the videos was fake considering there I am with them, with the Washington Monument in the background, with everyone wearing the same exact clothes (though Tom and the girl I was fvcking have changed since the earlier picture). And clearly, you can now see that I am the guy Tom says "Hey, guy" to as we meet him late that night, that I am the guy walking down the stairs in the video, etc.

Keep trying, moron:

 

[ThunderCat98]

That's exactly what I wouldn't do. Where do I have my real name anywhere on Facebook? I purposely don't put anything with my name on there. Hell, even if the certificate didn't have my name - which it does - I still wouldn't put it on there.

How many of my RIAA certified gold/platinum plaques do I have on Facebook? I have one that I put on there many years ago simply because it was from a band totally out of my usual genre. Other than that, I haven't posted any of them. How many times have I posted about a placement on an album? The ONLY artist I have done that with is MattyB with about half of my placements, just like I do with only him on my Instagram, because he doesn't have a million dollar marketing budget that labels provide the other artists I have records with.

In fact, the co-producer on both Grammy nominations only posted about the first one on Facebook (and this was about 8 years ago).

How many times have I posted a picture of any car on Facebook? Once or twice maybe? The Land Rover about 13 years ago. Maybe the Jaguar from 12 years ago? How many times have I posted pictures of either beach condo? Once or twice- once with the view from one of my bedrooms in the background and the other having nothing to do with them. How many times do I post pictures from a vacation? Maybe 25% of the time?

You claim I am the boaster, yet in reality, it is you. I boast on here in response to the morons on here, like you, who try challenging me. On the other hand, you post pictures of your house, your yard after winning a Huntington, West Virginia contest, your cars (yes, just so you can "sell" them even though Facebook marketplace is far, far more beneficial for selling a car than posting for your Facebook friends), your apartment(s) (again, far better places to advertise than your Facebook friends), etc. I have a condo that was rented out all last year. The woman and her children just renewed their lease. I never posted about it on Facebook for a humble brag. Same with any cars I have sold or traded in. I know somebody who can't say the same.

This is the same argument you continue to make and fail on. You claim that I run to social media to post any of these things immediately. How many times do I put something on Facebook or Instagram? Once a month? Do you realize how many videos and pictures I have with artists backstage, from the side of stage, etc. that I've never posted? Do you realize how many of these times I don't even have pictures from?

But for the certificates . . . I'll be in NY in about a month. I'll be sure to post certificates when I get there. They are slightly different from each other since they are a couple of years apart.



Thanks, but it's not that huge of a deal in the industry. Prior to this year, this is how a nomination worked: say Flo Rida's "The Roots" album contained twelve songs. Pretend each song averaged three producers who received credit and two writers who received credit, so five total creatives on each song. A handful of producers and writers will overlap and have credits on other songs. So in total, assume there are 25 different creatives who have a hand in at least one of the twelve songs on the album. Then, there are mixers/engineers who also work on it, perhaps an A&R or two, and some studio musicians who are hired for some extra sounds on certain tracks. In total, there may be 30 people on that album who have some sort of credit. Now, if "The Roots" gets nominated for a Grammy for Rap Album of the Year, as it did, every single person who is credited on that album is officially Grammy nominated. Even if you only added one word as a songwriter on the entire album . . . on the worst song on the entire album . . . or simply changed a minor drum sound on the intro of one song . . . you're going to be Grammy nominated assuming the album is nominated.

So having two Grammy nominations, though impressive and something many highly successful creatives strive for, it isn't earth-shattering. There are quite a few Grammy nominated somethings that don't end up making a living from music and just get lucky or happen to be in the right place at the right time when a record is made.

Now, this year is the first year that changed. In order to be nominated as a producer, songwriter, or engineer for an Album of the Year award in any genre, you have to have credit on a certain percentage of the entire album (51% or more). If the entire album runs 60 minutes long, that means more than 30 minutes must include something you are credited on. Assuming a 60 minute album means 15 songs all at 4 minutes in length, to be nominated now, the creative must be part of at least 8 records.

If you look at last year's Rap Album of the Year (Kendrick Lamar), I don't believe there is a single producer or writer (outside of K. Dot) who would have won a Grammy under the new rules since none were on more than half of the songs. It is a monumental change that the Academy has implemented.

I think it is extremely restrictive, and they didn't do a good considering how most hip hop and pop albums are put together. Most hip hop and pop albums don't use a small number of producers/writers, with Taylor Swift and Bruno Mars being two recent exceptions.

So yes, I have two Grammy nominations (and if you look enough, you can find proof online with a name that you should be able to recognize), I will show the certificates in a month, but I would not have been anywhere close to receiving those nominations under the new rules.

In the meantime, the below picture entirely blows away your claim that I don't have major label placements, "a single credit in the entire music industry," and any of the other absurd things you've challenged me on.

Teach yourself what BMI does: it is a performance rights organization. BMI, along with ASCAP and SESAC, are the three biggest PROs in the world. They only pay writers/producers/publishers. Why do those people get paid? When records they are credited on get played around the world (sporting events, clubs, retail stores, hotel lobbies, doctor's office waiting room, etc.), there is a payment required from those. Those organizations take popular records and determine how much each earns from around the world each quarter. Obviously, some small record that doesn't get any air time on the radio isn't going to yield income. Note: BMI does not compensate for music played on Spotify, YouTube, itunes, record sales, etc. Those are entirely different types of royalties. BMI only pays for the things I mentioned. In other words, if a creative (publisher/writer/producer) is earning money from any of these three organizations each quarter, their credits are on some pretty big records. Then, on top of that, each of those organizations doesn't issue payment until a balance is a certain level. So if you make $100 as royalties in a quarter, they aren't bothering to send payment (I don't know the exact limit, but this was a teaching point).

Page 1 shows my quarterly statement for Q3 2018. Page 2 of the document shows who receives royalties. Oh, and like the other stack of checks I keep on my nightstand to remind myself to deposit them, this one hasn't been endorsed, deposited, or even torn off of the statement more than a month later.

It's probably because I am too busy with my "job" and my "boss" won't give me any time off to go to the bank.

The fact that I receive quarterly royalties from BMI proves that your "You don't have a single credit in the entire music industry" is bogus, but it also shows that they aren't just any run-of-the-mill credits. They are for major records/artists/labels that yield significant enough revenue that they send me a check every quarter (along with the numerous labels and publishers that do).

You've also previously said there are no social media posts from any legitimate artist/producer/etc. naming me for anything. And that's also false As I mentioned, I don't have Twitter where most of those things are done, but I not only have heard about them/been shown them, but I also have seen them myself on places like Facebook . . . including from people on Facebook who have a "blue check" on their Twitter page. And yes, I'll prove that, but only if you agree to a deal.

 

[wvkeeper(HN)]

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