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Nadler on impeachment

circa 1998:

"There must never be a narrowly voted impeachment or an impeachment substantially supported by one of our major political parties and largely opposed by the other. Such an impeachment would lack legitimacy, would produce divisiveness and bitterness in our politics for years to come. And will call into question the very legitimacy of our political institutions."

What's changed, Jerry? Oh, that's right. Shoe's on the other foot this time around.

As funny and hypocritical as this is, let's not forget that it was the Republicans in that same era that brought us to where we are today - impeaching a President from an opposition party simple because we dislike him. They set the precedent, and here we are.

Btw, anyone legitimately believe the dem-controlled House would vote for articles of impeachment if they also controlled the Senate? I don't.

How Much Can People Change?

Sure, people can change, but can people change after doing something truly despicable, truly morally bankrupt?

A company I have invested in/partner in wants to hire a female employee as a sales rep. She has a ton of connections in the industry and just left a similar industry where she was making between $150K-$200K per year. She worked for that company for four years, and by all accounts, was not only a top producer (top sales rep in their company across the country) but also a solid and loyal employee.

So what's the issue with hiring her? A background check showed she did something truly vile.

About eight years ago, her brother was diagnosed with a stage IV cancer. Serious, serious shit. It obviously put a toll on her family, and remarkably, her brother has survived to this point.

About six years ago, this girl, a single-mother of one daughter, made an awful decision. For reasons unknown (I haven't sat down to talk to her about it yet), she claimed to have had a serious form of cancer. It was completely bogus.

At the time, she was a fairly recent college grad who was working at a restaurant. Of course, when a young, attractive, single-mother gets cancer, a community rallied around her. The owner/co-workers at the restaurant took the bull by its horns and set up a day/night where all proceeds from their regular sales would go to help her with her bills, as she claimed she couldn't work while having treatment. Even the waiters gave every single penny of their earnings that night to her fund. In other words, she was allowing her friends and co-workers to work for free, give her all of their money, and do it under the guise of having cancer.

Somebody set up a GoFund Me account which raised tens of thousands of dollars. A local news station asked her to do a segment where she sat down and was interviewed, which she obliged to do. She forged documents (almost as good as Murox the Moron) from her brother's cancer paperwork to make them appear official. She lied to her family and kept them worried about it all. Her undoing came when she forgot to change the year on one of her brother's old medical documents, in turn, tipping off a careful reader.

She obviously and rightfully was hit hard by the court. She was convicted of two felonies, had to make full financial restitution (which she has accomplished), spent a year incarcerated (a significant portion which was spent in a work-release program), had to do a ton of community service hours, and lost custody of her only child (though she has split custody now).

Clearly, she was punished for it severely and will continue to be, as she is now a convicted felon, has no chance at many jobs, has that as a reputation which is easy to find, etc. Her background isn't a struggle - her parents are divorced, but they mutually own thousands upon thousands of land as farmers. All of her siblings are college grads and have stable jobs and families. On paper, her parents are loaded (due to the value of their land, animals, property, etc.), but she claims they are very simple people. They think she is too "wordly" and think she should simply strive for living in the house she owns on her parents property and finding the right guy. So I could see her being in need of financial help and her parents not willing to help.

I could understand her making a lie in order to miss a week of work ("I have to miss work this week, I have some serious medical appointments which require me to have tests"), then somebody at work catching wind of it and doing the fundraiser/GoFund Me/going to the media about it. Then, to not be exposed as a liar, she may have kept digging her hole deeper after it got out of control.

I don't know the why - but before sitting down with her, does it even matter? For a person to do that, is there any hope they are a totally different person six years later? I am cool with second chances, but that is a severe, severe incident. Has she paid enough of a punishment, been a great employee at another company for four years, and earned these opportunities?

Coach Stowers propaganda rebuttal

it has come to my attention that Coach is defaming the Great Bobby Pruett by making bogus comparisons to John Holliday. So let's look at this fun comparison:

Final Sagarin Ratings for both coaches from best to worst:

1999 - 13 Pruett
2014 - 23 John
2001 - 34 Pruett
1997 - 36 Pruett
2002 - 53 Pruett
1998 - 54 Pruett
2003 - 56 Pruett
2013 - 61 John
2015 - 66 John
2000 - 74 Pruett
2011 - 79 John
2018 - 79 John
2019 - 84 (currently) John
2017 - 85 John
2004 - 106 Pruett
2012 - 107 John
2010 - 113 John
2016 - 160 John

So, one of the top seven for John and one of the bottom 8 for Pruett. Please don't ever compare the two again.

Thank you.

Rivalry week

Watching "rivalry week" last week I realized CUSA really doesn't have these games. In an effort to help attendance, I would like to see them start "rivalry week" scheduling so each team plays the same team the last game of each year. They could do this or allow teams to schedule OOC if their main rival is not in conference. I was thinking for us it should be WKU or MTSU. The rivalry week games should be easy travel. Probably short term impact may be small the first years but we need to start somewhere. We need some games that get people lathered up regardless of how that year is going.

YE Sagarin updated to include Snyder Years

Final Sagarin Ratings for both coaches from best to worst:

1999 - 13 Pruett
2014 - 23 John
2001 - 34 Pruett
1997 - 36 Pruett
2002 - 53 Pruett
1998 - 54 Pruett
2003 - 56 Pruett
2013 - 61 John
2015 - 66 John
2000 - 74 Pruett
2009 - 79 Snyder
2011 - 79 John
2018 - 79 John
2019 - 85 (currently) John
2017 - 85 John
2008 - 101 Snyder
2006 - 102 Snyder
2004 - 106 Pruett
2005 - 106 Snyder
2012 - 107 John
2010 - 113 John
2007 - 125 Snyder
2016 - 160 John

three of the four worst years still John. Too bad Sagarin wasn't around when Charlie Snyder was coach, could have helped John out.

Averages
Legendary Bobby Pruett - 53.25
John (Field Position) Holliday - 85.80
Mark (Grey Goose) Snyder - 102.60

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John Holliday quest for two records!!

Which milestone will John reach first?

  • Marshall's winningest coach with 95 victories

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Marshall's losingest coach with 59 defeats

    Votes: 16 100.0%

John is currently 78-50 as Marshall's head coach. He now has two records firmly in sight and will likely surpass both. While we know he will never hold records for things like best winning percentage or most conference titles, he will likely become the Marshall coach with most victories (Pruett currently leads most victories with 94, best winning percentage at .803, and conference titles with 6) and most loses (currently held by Charlie Snyder with 58).

So the question is, does John become the biggest winner or the biggest loser first?

Side note, John has lost more games already that Pruett and Donnan combined (44 total loses in 14 seasons).

Just throwing this out there.

Consider this - knowing IG has struggled mightily. Would it be better for the program to move Gaines back to QB?
Yes, we lose him at TE but we seem to be OK there with Miller and a few others coming in. In addition we can still line him up at TE in certain situations. We know he is an effective runner plus the times he has thrown, he seems to throw a pretty good ball.

I like IG and he tries but we aren’t gonna do squat next year with him under Center. Jmo

Uncomfortable Post-Season Thoughts - Round 1

Between the direct impact of his carries and the adjustments they required in the passing defense, Brenden Knox was personally responsible for the vast majority of our offense in 2019.

In 2018, Brenden Knox was a (RS) FR playing special teams, looking up at Trey Rodriguez, Anthony Anderson and Tyler King, and never touching the ball. After the coaching staff took two weeks into the regular season before fully analyzing Trey Rodriguez' 1.6 yards per carry, he was benched (and subsequently transferred to Jupiter) and Tyler King was promoted to HB1.

In garbage time against FAU, with the opponent completely salted away and most of the home fans back at their tailgates, we gave Tyler King his 24th and final carry of the game and the season, losing him to injury (but maybe also discipline? Or was it just injury? Or discipline? WHO KNOWS). In that void, Knox stepped up and was immediately revealed to be the best offensive player on the team, and he has served that purpose ever since.

Had Trey Rodriguez not completely washed out, and had Tyler King managed to stay injury/drug-free, Brenden Knox would be the third option on an offense that only utilizes two backs at any given time.

Some names you won't recognize:
Knowledge McDaniel (Freshman)
Joseph Early (Junior)
Lawrence Papillion (RS Freshman)
Cedric Wilcox (Freshman)

Larry got 6 carries against VMI, and that was the last time a Herd running back not named Knox or Evans touched the ball. Against FIU, Brenden Knox had 33 carries.
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Herd Nation

Questions about this message board. 1. Who is ultimately in charge of Herd Nation? 2. Who selects the “moderators” and what is the criteria to be one? 3. Moderator, by definition, means to arbitrate or mediate disputes - not be part of them so who is in charge of the moderators? I am sure there are many individuals who visit/post/read on this board who wonder about the same questions so whomever is the number one person in charge of all of this please identify yourself to the rest of us and please answer the aforementioned questions. Thank you.

Are we going to get a Commitment Prediction Article prior to Early Signing?

@Josh Stowers @Chris McLaughlin @Aaron Perkins

I was just wondering if you all were going to do a write up on which recruits have the best chance of signing with us to fill the remaining spots in this year's class.

Do you know of any surprises that could happen? Doesn't seem to be too much buzz surrounding recruiting outside of some JUCOs. I'm really hoping Doc closes out strong.

CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG!

WOW! The last few days has just turned into a name calling, insult each other slug fest. You want to clean up the board? Have everyone use their real name. Name calling would almost instantly come to a halt.It probably wouldn't stop completely but would come down considerably. It's easy to call someone names and insult their intelligence behind the secrecy of a fake name on a anonymous internet site.

Favorite albums age 20 vs 40..and what you're listening to now

I figured we needed a music thread again.

List your top 3-5 albums you loved at age ~20's (or at least 10 years ago for you young people here), then the top 3-5 that you loved at age 40's (or 35 or current age or whatever...you get the point). When I say "top albums" I don't necessarily means one that are the "best" in terms of critical acclaim or whatever, I just mean ones you came/come back to and listen to the most and seem to prefer.

Then maybe throw out an album you're enjoying now.

One rule (Herdman - I'm looking at you to moderate):
1. This is a judgement free thread. If you thought TLC's Crazy Sexy Cool was a great album (or still do), then no one is to comment in a negative way on this. Compliments or suggestions are welcome, but if you think something sucks then we don't want to hear it. I'll also think you're a terrible person if you make fun of someone regarding their music choice in a different thread, so don't do that either.
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So About the New Commit

Does he have any other FBS offers? Two years ago, he had 0 FBS offers. He ended up going to an FCS (Citadel). After his freshman season in which he played about half of their games, he transferred mid-year to a JUCO (Navarro). He has offers from Tennessee Tech (FCS) and Robert Morris (FCS).

Does he have any other FBS offers other than Marshall's which he immediately committed to? None in high school, it appears none after JUCO (other than Marshall), and he played at a JUCO that just about every school in the country recruits.

Is this another one of those instances where the Marshall staff saw something that none of the other 120 FBS schools that saw Navarro's players saw?

Monday Motivation for the MU Athletic Director

American by a large, even today, want a winner and will not tolerate a loser. American's also don't like underachievers. Marshall football is an underachiever. That's the problem. Not hard to figure out. Marshall fans want excitement and trophies in the trophy cabinet. We don't want to be the Mississippi State of Conference USA. We want to be the Clemson or Alabama or Ohio State of perhaps the weakest conference in IA football. NO, I don't mean actually be Clemson or Alabama but, we want to win the damn conference more than once a decade and we want excitement. 8-4 is ho hum. We finished second in our division again. Not acceptable. Marshall Football is a gross underachiever.

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